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Women’s Witness to the Gospel

I’m a 29-year-old, Southern male who’s been born and raised in the buckle of the Bible-Belt here in South Georgia. I will testify to the fact that the gender debate in the Church is alive and well despite the amount of progress the feminist movement has made in the last 30 years or so. It’s still very common that we address God with male imagery in the liturgy of worship. The fact that Jesus is called “Son” and God is called “Father” leads many to see the image of God solely in male terms. Women still struggle at times finding a clear and definitive voice in the Church. This is nothing new.

You can imagine my boredom with the fact that John Piper has publicly declared God’s intention for Christianity is for it to have a “masculine feel” at a recent meeting of preachers. In his defense I’m sure Piper was trying to offer a corrective to the “Macho-God Movement” promoted by the likes of Mark Driscoll and other pastors who would lead us to believe that God is somehow a steroid-pumped Rambo figure waiting to drop a hurting of judgment on all who would cross his path. Piper instead advocates for a more sensitive male-figure God. Maybe a kinder, gentler Mr. Rogers sort of God who loves both men and women to the fullest degree. This is a quaint view of God but unfortunately it’s not the kind of God I know best.

Now I’m not the kind of bible scholar who would dare challenge the likes of John Piper on his use of scripture. But I am a pastor in the United Methodist tradition and I’ve been introduced to the idea that as people of faith, we have to employ the tools of tradition, reason and experience along with our reading of scripture in order to gain a robust interpretation of matters of faith and theology. We call this the Wesleyan Quadrilateral. And so I have to look to my experience and reason to inform my readings of scripture and tradition where John Piper would lead me to believe God is somehow predominately masculine.

Women Taught Me the Very Scripture John Piper Quotes

My earliest recollections of faith come in the form of Sunday School lessons taught by wonderfully loving and patient women. I encountered the Bible with the help of these women through reading and learning texts (memorization drills) as well as interactive activities (usually in the form of crafts). And so before I learned that God could somehow be male, God was made manifest in the form of these wonderful women of faith who served the church by teaching children the faith. I’ve known countless women who have devoted their lives to shaping the faith of others. And in doing so, they’ve also modeled the faith in radical ways, teaching me the virtues of faithfulness, justice, and compassion.

Women Were Leaders in My Life

Even though I grew up in the Bible-Belt, I learned early on that women could actually thrive as leaders in the Church. For 15 years of my life, I went to church where a female pastor served as the senior pastor. Our church grew and even thrived as a mid-size, neighborhood United Methodist Church during that time. I was confirmed as a member of my church and in the vows of my baptism that remind me of the waters of baptism being like the womb (female imagery) where life is born. I went to seminary with some of the brightest and most capable young, up-and-coming pastors, many of whom were women. Some of my most influential professors in seminary were world-renowned biblical scholars that also happened to be (you guessed it) women. And so I know that I can read biblical texts that might lead me to believe this isn’t so, but my experience has shown that God just loves to defy the norms we create with narrow readings of scripture.

Church Leadership Begins with Faithful Discipleship

I’m concerned that somehow John Piper and other evangelicals like him seem to believe that leadership goes exclusively with power. The examples he uses in his recent talk speak of a God who is portrayed as a powerful king, men who make up the power structure of councils, and husbands who are to assume the position of power as the head of the household. What about the texts that remind us, “whoever wants to be first must be last of all and servant of all” (Mark 9:35)? What about the fact that while the powerful disciples sat paralyzed behind locked doors, the women were faithfully caring for the body of Jesus and thus became the first evangelists who told the good news of resurrection (Matt. 28:1-10; Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24:1-12)? And what about the fact that even Paul declares, “there is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male or female; for all are one in Christ Jesus” (Gal.3:28)? When did power become the sole descriptor of God?

I fear that our cultural tendency to love power and position leads those like John Piper (and the rest of us for that matter) to forget that God is so much bigger than the images we might project. And we may live in a world that clamors for powerful leaders but we have to remember that we’re all called to be faithful disciples before we’re called to be leaders. And for me, it’s always been the women in my life who have embodied that sort of faithful discipleship.

I want to thank, Rachel Held Evans, who is one of my favorite theological voices these days for issuing the challenge to men to respond to John Piper's remarks. Too often we men who agree with wonderful voices like Rachel sit back and depend on her and others like her to raise these issues so that we can rubberstamp them with our quiet, "Amen"]

11 Comments

  1. “And so I know that I can read biblical texts that might lead me to believe this isn’t so, but my experience has shown that God just loves to defy the norms we create with narrow readings of scripture.” Love this. Well said.

  2. cherie b

    Thanks, Ben!

  3. DeAnna Smith

    Thanks for sharing these views! When i felt led to attend Bible college, I did not share with my own parents because of their beliefs about women in ministry. I myself was not even sure about my position on the matter but I know God called me. We should be cafeful not to dispute someone’s calling.
    I am reminded Ananias’ hesitation to visit Saul and the Lord’s response, “Go, for he is a.chosen vessel of mine…”
    This issue is just another avenue that leads to discord among believers. We are to be of one accord.

  4. As a woman in Seminary, I appreciate this. Thanks for posting!

  5. Robbie Brooks

    Thank you for taking up Rachel’s invitation and sharing your reflections from your life and Scripture. As a woman it was quite affirming and made me smile! Those women in your life and congregation are fortunate to have your life as testimony to truth.

  6. Thank you for this response. I thought it was well-articulated and that you made some strong points from your own experience. What pushed me to comment, though, was that I grew up in Macon, GA! It’s rare that I hear of anyone from there outside of friends and family, so I was pleasantly surprised to meet a like-minded Christian from Macon out here on the internet:). My parents still live on Lake Tobesofkee, and we love to go visit them.

    Keep preaching the Word in my hometown! Macon needs voices like yours!

  7. Thanks for these good words and for taking up Rachel’s challenge to man-up, so to speak. It is lovely and refreshing to read words like these from a young, male pastor. I came to ministry at midlife and just retired last year – never was a senior pastor, but came to believe that a called and gifted woman could most certainly lead and build a congregation. I never saw a woman in ministry before I went to seminary in the 90′s – so glad that you had that model before you as you began your training and that you continue to carry it with you as you move into ministry. Your words are so encouraging!

  8. Jack Varnell

    Ben,

    Like you, I also experienced the faith through the teaching of women in the United Methodist Church. I think about all of the Sunday School teachers and VBS leaders through whom, “God was made manifest in the form of these wonderful women of faith who served the church by teaching children the faith.” And speaking of seminary, I took preaching classes with women who could preach circles around me and everyone else in the class! Finally, let us not forget the significant role that Susanna Wesley played in John Wesley’s life and spiritual upbringing.

  9. As a woman with a seminary degree, thank you.

  10. Thanks, Ben, for taking the time to write this strong response. Hope you and yours are doing well. Ministry here in B’ham is full, challenging, and wonderful!

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